Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/17/2001 01:46 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 194                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to fees for commercial fishing licenses                                                                    
     and permits; and providing for an effective date.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARY STEVENS commented  that a good compromise                                                                   
had  been  reached  which  was   included  in  the  committee                                                                   
substitute,  work   draft  version  22-LS0441\B,   Utermohle,                                                                   
4/17/01.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hudson  MOVED   that  committee   substitute                                                                   
version  be the  version of  the bill  before the  Committee.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris  MOVED  to  ADOPT  Amendment  #1,  22-                                                                   
LS0441\O.2, Utermohle,  4/09/01.   [Copy on File].   Co-Chair                                                                   
Mulder  OBJECTED  for  the  purpose  of  discussing  concerns                                                                   
previously voiced by the Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stevens noted that  the changed language would                                                                   
insert the words:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "not to exceed a maximum of $50 for each license holder                                                                    
     for each year;".                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stevens stated  that the  increase would  add                                                                   
more  money into  the  fund than  necessary,  which had  been                                                                   
addressed through the amendment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  questioned where the excess  money would go.                                                                   
Representative   Stevens  replied   that   the  money   would                                                                   
eventually  end up in  commercial fisheries.   He added  that                                                                   
the fishermen were "happy" with the proposed change.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BROOKS, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME, explained  that the revenue from                                                                   
the sale  of the licenses  was addressed  in the  language in                                                                   
the front  of the bill, placing  a deposit into the  Fish and                                                                   
Game Fund.  There is a component  in that Fund which has been                                                                   
separated  out  for  the  commercial   fisheries  and  it  is                                                                   
available for appropriation for  commercial fishing projects.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies asked what  the fiscal impact would be.                                                                   
Mr. Brooks  replied that without  the amendment,  there would                                                                   
be a  potential increase of  $116 thousand dollars,  and that                                                                   
by FY03; it would amount to $300 thousand dollars.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder  WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.    Representative                                                                   
Croft  pointed out  that the  drafters should  note that  the                                                                   
page  numbers  shifted  with  the  adoption  of  the  current                                                                   
version.  There being NO FURTHER  OBJECTION, Amendment #1 was                                                                   
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies MOVED  a  change to  Page  4, Line  9,                                                                   
deleting  "does not  exceed" and  inserting  language "is  as                                                                   
close as  is practical to".   Co-Chair Williams  OBJECTED for                                                                   
purposed of discussion.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  explained   the  bill  would  provide                                                                   
direction.   He stated  that it  should not  be equal  to the                                                                   
maximum as the amounts vary from  year to year.  The proposed                                                                   
language  would give  the necessary  instruction to  maximize                                                                   
the concern.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hudson  suggested   a  "friendly"  amendment,                                                                   
deleting the  language proposed  by Representative  J. Davies                                                                   
and  instead adding  "is".   Representative Davies  explained                                                                   
that the  other language  had  been chosen  as a result  from                                                                   
previous discussion requiring  them to enter a maximum amount                                                                   
every year.   Representative  Hudson  WITHDREW his MOTION  to                                                                   
amend.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks commented  that the  fee  had been  based on  the                                                                   
prior year's expenditures.   Much of the language  is to deal                                                                   
with the  logistics of  that.   At the  heart of the  license                                                                   
issue,   originally  there   was   a  $500   dollar   spread.                                                                   
Historically,  the charge  was between  $30 and $90  dollars.                                                                   
Now it is between $60 and $125  dollars.  He pointed out that                                                                   
the gap  is $100 dollars  or less.   If the Courts  came back                                                                   
with a  differential, there could  be a crewmember  charge of                                                                   
$60  dollars for  a  resident  and $160  dollars  for a  non-                                                                   
resident.  He discussed the magnitude  of the differential on                                                                   
the low end rather than focusing on the high end.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stevens  referenced Page 2, Line  13, advising                                                                   
that   the  wording   would   need   to  be   changed   there                                                                   
additionally.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Davies  MOVED   the  amendment  to   include                                                                   
language on both Page 2 and Page 4.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.   There  being NO                                                                   
further OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Mulder  pointed out  that there  was no fiscal  note                                                                   
from the Department of Fish and  Game.   Mr. Brooks indicated                                                                   
that it would be forth coming.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder MOVED  to  report  CS HB  194  (FIN) out  of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  194 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation   and  with   a  fiscal  note   by  the                                                                   
Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission and the  Department of                                                                   
Fish and Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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